tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513616792028141844.post3541726365351464945..comments2023-04-14T06:11:34.177-04:00Comments on Connecting 2 the World: Time, technology, and the younger setV Yonkershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11910904367068063554noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513616792028141844.post-11213657018570395912008-08-04T19:45:00.000-04:002008-08-04T19:45:00.000-04:00Kia ora Virginia!Yes I have a post on NetSafe 2008...Kia ora Virginia!<BR/><BR/>Yes I have <A HREF="http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2008/07/netsafe-conference-2008-queenstown-july.html" REL="nofollow">a post</A> on NetSafe 2008, but it is just a brief on where I was at on the evening of Day2. I'm currently writing a report and will post another soon.<BR/><BR/>Beer and other alcohol are part of the culture in New Zealand, and you're right about Facebook (an older person's Web 2.0 app it seems, from what I learnt at the Conference). I have not seen much of what you describe on my daughter's screen when she accesses Bebo, but I am not denying that it goes on. It does!<BR/><BR/>TV is an influence it is true, but I think the home is too. Have a look at my post on the <A HREF="http://newmiddle-earth.blogspot.com/2008/07/tn-koutou-katoa-welcome-to-you-all-i-t.html" REL="nofollow">youth of today</A>.Blogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513616792028141844.post-83588399546887442412008-08-04T07:39:00.000-04:002008-08-04T07:39:00.000-04:00I just assumed, Ken, that you had done what I have...I just assumed, Ken, that you had done what I have done in the past. Sometimes I'll have two windows open and I'll switch the blogs. Ironically, I had meant to read the comment and accidentally clicked on the delete (I was using a different computer than I normally do).<BR/><BR/>In terms of your comment, I am very interested in the NetSafe Conference. Did you blog about it? I think this is also a cultural thing in terms of the security threats. In the US, because of some high profile incidences, there is a concern for on line predators and cyber bullying. I am concerned the most about the cyber bullying and peer pressure exerted by the community on social networks.<BR/><BR/>One of my student groups did a presentation on the perception of secondary school students towards what university life is. They felt that the majority of university students go out drinking 4-5 times a week and that school is much easier than in secondary school. They then bring this attitude to the university. Our university (which was voted the top party school a few years back) has been trying to battle this image as it results in a high drop out rate for first year students.<BR/><BR/>So where do they get this image? Certainly from TV. But more than that, you need only look at facebook with images of drinking and partying.V Yonkershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11910904367068063554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513616792028141844.post-22836414771046199392008-08-04T06:38:00.000-04:002008-08-04T06:38:00.000-04:00Ha, ha, ha Virginia!It serves me right for getting...Ha, ha, ha Virginia!<BR/><BR/>It serves me right for getting your name wrong! Not only that, but I've completely forgotten what I said in my original comment. Ha, ha!<BR/><BR/>Facebook is my choice. My daughter Hannah has a Bebo account. That's her choice. We share ideas and even swap photos, many of which we share.<BR/><BR/>I recently attended the NetSafe Conference 2008. There were many discussions on the need for careful parental supervision when kids access the Internet especially as young teenagers can fall prey to all sorts of vagaries, the chief of which was illegal file sharing. Apparently it is prevalent to the extent that ISPs are considering intervening as they can track this sort of thing.<BR/><BR/>So good on you for parenting the way you do! Teenagers, apparently, often don't have the development to realise the consequences of all that they do - feel that it's okay if no-one knows what they're doing and they believe that they are invincible in these circumstances. All part of their development I suppose, but there seems to be no easy solution to safety other than what you are doing.<BR/><BR/>Ka kite<BR/>from Middle-earthBlogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513616792028141844.post-30440510597666201142008-08-03T13:46:00.000-04:002008-08-03T13:46:00.000-04:00Ken, I also have to appologize for I deleted your ...Ken, I also have to appologize for I deleted your message thinking it was for Karyn! sorry.<BR/><BR/>Lauraann, I like your idea for the different audiences. I usually do something like that, but I think I might see if I can find different speechs by the same candidates on the same topic and have them pick out the different "terms" they use for the same topic. That would give them a good example of register.<BR/><BR/>I usually have them do a worksheet that is to identify the audiences that they are going to speak to. They give 4 speeches, and by the last speech, they usually can fill out the worksheet (which I feel is a great accomplishment, as they are beginning to think of the listener rather than what they are going to say).<BR/><BR/>In terms of the enforcement of the facebook rule, I can enforce it at home because our computer is in the middle of the house for all to see (that is how my son got caught). The problem is at school and camp where he had access to a computer. However, even there, there are limits to when they have access. I am sure right after school before sports begin (my son has about 45 minutes during which time they encourage the boys-it's a boy's school--to do their homework or seek out their teachers for help) when I can't control his behavior. But then...that's part of growing up.<BR/><BR/>I applaud your work in learning about Web 2.0 and I think you will have a better understanding of your students by understanding the tools they are using. I think you will also find they connect to what you are saying if you can put it in their terms. My students were surprised I had a facebook account, but they also had a new understanding for us "older folk" in the use of such tools. I told them I refused to use facebook as a primary source of communication because I did not want my family exposed to the images I might accidently find because of the community (the university) I belonged to.V Yonkershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11910904367068063554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513616792028141844.post-84362225819274800682008-08-03T07:59:00.000-04:002008-08-03T07:59:00.000-04:00V - I just stumbled across your blog and thoroughl...V - I just stumbled across your blog and thoroughly enjoyed this post. <BR/><BR/>Isn't it interesting how technology establishes a new definition of old? I am in my early 40's and young for my age, but in the technological world I qualify for social security! <BR/><BR/>As a high-school English teacher feeling the pressure to stay connected with "the younger set," I have spent my summer engaged in a web2.0study. What an experience!<BR/><BR/>I won't bore you with the details - my blog bears the evidence if you are interested - but I do feel informed enough to respond to your latest post. <BR/><BR/>1. On time. I knew my students stayed up till all hours of the night, "fooling around" (my words, not theirs) on the computer. I didn't realize how focused and thoughtful that time could be. Yet, here I am at 5:30 in the morning, here during the last weeks of summer, time when I should be relishing the precious gift of sleep, responding to your thought-provoking post!<BR/><BR/>2. Regarding facebook - Rarely can I say that I am glad we don't have children, but the whole specter of facebook encourages me to think along those lines. I love your hour-a-day rule. Is there a way to enforce it? <BR/><BR/>3. Register of language: I teach AP Language and Composition, and register is something that escapes my students' comprehension. They tend to fall back on two inadequate descriptors: casual/colloquial or formal. I love your idea of tailoring a speech to different groups. This might seem painfully predictable (sorry if it is so), but you might even consider using one of the issues facing the presidential candidates as an example. <BR/><BR/>If candidate X were speaking about healthcare reform (not much of an issue in this election, is it?) and he were speaking to a group of grandmothers, how might he choose his stance, his diction, etc. But if he were speaking to a group from the AMA, how would the same speech differ in stance, diction, etc? And if he were speaking to a group of union representatives? Each speech, though conveying the same information, would have to communicate in a different way. <BR/><BR/>Another interesting idea that just popped in my head is that students rarely recognize that there are vocabularies specific to certain groups, whether social, cultural, and/or professional. For example, in my web2.0 studies this summer, I discovered a whole vocabulary that I didn't know before. Meta-this and beta-that... Just teaching kids to be aware of that is so important. <BR/><BR/>Well, thanks for letting me stop in and chat. I'm impressed with your blog and will check in regularly!LauraAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07030444478673444985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513616792028141844.post-77087464533537461672008-08-03T02:19:00.000-04:002008-08-03T02:19:00.000-04:00Kia ora Virginia!Horror of horrors! I do believe I...Kia ora Virginia!<BR/><BR/>Horror of horrors! I do believe I got your name wrong! I had been reading Karyn Romeis' posts and also yours which referred to Karyn's post.<BR/><BR/>One thousand apologies for getting the handle wrong!<BR/><BR/>Ka kite<BR/>from Muddled earthBlogger In Middle-earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08722634477041121797noreply@blogger.com